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Sunday, October 25, 2009

What Are They Thinking?


The co-pilot of the Northwest Airlines jet that, having missed its destination, wandered around the skies the other night out of touch with traffic controllers, insists that whatever it was he and the pilot were doing in the cockpit - and he's not being forthcoming about that - passenger safety was not compromised. And the dog ate his homework.


9 Comments:

Anonymous Lee said...

If they had been upfront about all in the beginning, the fuss would have been over by now. Makes one wonder, did they have hoochie-koochie girls in there or were they making nicie, nicie with each other for an hour? My guess is dull, I think they both fell asleep. Why not admit it. Probably going to get fired one way or another anyhow.

10:30 AM  
Anonymous Jean Burman said...

And what the heck was the cabin crew doing when there were no requests forthcoming from the flight deck to prepare the cabin for landing? Or were they asleep too?

Um... they weren't flying over the Bermuda Triangle by any chance? Grin

1:47 PM  
Blogger John M Crowther said...

Actually, Jean, it was a cabin attendant who banged on the cockpit door to find out what the heck was happening.

8:58 AM  
Anonymous Jean Burman said...

Over an hour later tho... LOL

1:09 PM  
Blogger John M Crowther said...

I figure that since they flew past their destination 150 miles (at cruising speed), it was probably only about 10-15 minutes after their scheduled arrival. It seems the pilots are now saying they were engrossed in going over scheduling on their laptops -- and probably had been for some time before they were winging past Minneapolis.

4:45 PM  
Anonymous Jean Burman said...

From all reports here there seems to be a bit of a discrepancy about how long it took them to overshoot by 150 miles. The aircraft was reported as flying on for an hour and 20 minutes... but that can't be right? The plot thickens... and the truth gets even murkier! Eagerly watching this [air] space (((LOL)))

4:58 AM  
Blogger John M Crowther said...

Yes, Jean, all the conflicting media reports only serve, as usual, to further muddy already roiled waters. (Perhaps "befog the air" would be a better metaphor.) But the main thing to remember is that the plane was flying at somewhere around 450 plus miles an hour, so the "overshoot" was relatively brief. The hour and twenty minutes referred to is the time they were out of contact with Air Traffic Control, which began back when the pilots missed the "hand off" from Denver Center to Minneapolis Center. This is the time when one center instructs the pilot to contact the next center on a different frequency. These ATC areas are huge. One passes through only about five when crossing the country.

10:10 AM  
Anonymous Jean Burman said...

Ahhh. That makes sense. But still seems just a little bit of a concern from the air safety perspective that they missed the air traffic handoff. I wonder if authority's will ever release the transcript from the cockpit voice recorder or whether the pilots deleted it after the flight. Not sure if that can be done there.. but here after an apparently uneventful flight... it can be. Guess we'll just have to watch this space. Meantime I guess we can just be thankful no-one got hurt.

3:07 PM  
Blogger John M Crowther said...

Jean, the missed hand-off is a HUGE concern. It means that had there been any warnings, changes of route, weather advisories, etc. they were out of contact. They did however continue to be tracked on radar, though controllers had no idea what their intentions were or why they weren't answering repeated calls. It's why fighter planes were scrambled, out of concern that highjackers might have taken over.

The voice recorder only got the last half hour of the flight, from after they had established radio contact, everything previous to that having been taped over. The newer black boxes record for two hours, but they had one of the older ones.

4:20 PM  

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